In the Zen tradition, the highest state is described as not being anything, the ultimate goal of enlightenment being nothingness. In the Tibetan tradition, there is an esoteric "other world", an "other life", an "other life after death" where there is no time or space, nothingness and no awareness, all beings are equal, all is the same, no mind and no body, the ultimate goal of enlightenment is nothingness, and all is one with nothingness. Enlightenment is said to be old, the hook is a trap for